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Ban Appeal

yL5er

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Account Name : yL5er
Reason for ban : X-Raying
Length of ban : Permaban
Have you been banned before? : no
Why should you be unbanned : So it is a mess, I got banned for xraying but I got unbanned then I got banned again (all in just few minutes) then I looked in Discord and I found that Sol accused me of destroying his shulker with good stuff in lava.
1. First of all I wasn't online when it happened and I wasn't near him in anyway.
2. Xraying? I was mining for quartz and basalt for Sol vault and because I tped to him (bad tp due to presence of lava and no basalt) I went to find basalt up to the surface. I read on internet where debris spawn because randomly mine is useless and I found out different coordinates and some tricks, like chunk borders, where they spawn. Also because of my mmcm skills I “dupe” most of the loot I found and many of them tripled. I found like 15 debris in 30min of mining and because all of them duped/tripled I got a large amount. I wasn't xraying and I think the false accuse actually made evrything seem like connectes in really bad way.

In short words my defence are:
- The false accuse (because I wasn't anywhere near him) have certainly did have an effect to my ban (also most of the stuff he lost were from me so there was no reason do do that).
- I know how to actually they spawn and patterns like the chunk border rule and the y71 lv and many other things.
- I have mined for a long time that actually is average, therefore my debris ratio is fairly normal, as well as the mmcm multi item drops.

To avoid any missunderstanding I want to point out that I already had some ancient debris from previous mining session that I forgot to put them in a chest so the ratio I have is more lower than it actually seems.

(If applicable) Attach a file of evidence to prove innocence

I wasn't online when I got banned so I don't have any images. Also the ban happened after 5 minutes so it was really delayed.

I hope to have covered every point if not I'll make it more detailed if you need
 

SpookyGeist

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Hello Mr. yL5er, I am glad that you've decided to look fate in the eyes and have accepted the punishment enough, to have decided that an appeal of such, is a decisive choice of yours.
I appreciate the time you put into this documentation on your behalf, how you explain your situation from an external point of view (yours), and for that, I applaud you, however...

... you seem to be caught up in the fact that you were banned because of some other player's influence, or so it seems by what you've written? If so, I can safely assure you that, that is not the case. We'd never ban a player for X-raying over what someone else said unless said player quite literally snitched then well... it would make sense to at least look into that. So in conclusion, you weren't banned because you presumably did something bad to a player, though that is a punishable offense to an extent, that is not the reason for your ban. You were permanently banned simply because of what appears to be solid-evidence on the "obvious" use of said hacks since our classified proof of evidence, which could be used if necessary to prove our point of view, that you were doing so. Our anti-cheat tells us the same, and quite frankly I must be honest, our anti-cheat rarely ever lies - and if it did were to have messed up one way or another, you were under watchful eyes for a good 20-30 minutes were it seemed crystal clear that X-ray was being used. From the cave patterns to the sudden turn of rights and lefts, how you so happen to stumble upon nearby ancient debris, some, even falsified as bait to see if you'd spot and follow suit in unnatural manner - which you fell for.

In conclusion, I and my colleagues are pretty convinced that you were indeed hacking and while I do believe in second chances myself, I'd very much like to have you unbanned on Gingy grounds but unfortunately for you, I'd like to see more crucial evidence of your innocence in an attempt to try and perhaps convince me, or at least shed some more light on this. Try doing that more than filling up a post about some random goon whom you may -or may not have bullied or done whatever to which, let me be clear once more, has had no relevance what so ever to your final punishment.

Your truly, Spooky G.

TL;DR --> I would like to see another post of yours, this time trying to explain more clearly and elaborately how you did not x-ray rather than blaming it on someone else.
 

yL5er

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I really like your explanation but you do make me looks I'm on the bad side here.
If I were using said Xrays I should have taken all the stuff I presumably had seen but if you follow my path really close you'll see that I even miss some of them because I didn't see them due to the lack of xray.
Random turns are explainabled in really easy terms, I turn 90 degress to the left/right whenever I found something and always in direction of lava. That because debris, if you read the spawn rate, cannot spawn two batches in the same chunk so once I find one I have to exit that chunk immediately. Also I've seen that if you mine in a 2by1 manner and position your camera right the screen glitches and show you presence of lava nearby and as we know debris actually spawn near lava, which is really effective to find them.
Another cool thing is that most of the time debris actually spawn in a cyclic way and if you look at my path you see that overall I did the same turns and the same movements. Once you find the first 5 the others will be kinda along the same movements with few adjustment.
As for the fact you put the false debris as a bait it just add a more important defence to me. Infact that kinda glitch, the wrong-rendering, never shows ores, just cave system, unless someone have placed those by hand.
So if you just did /setblock instead of place it manually I would never see them but because you did and I happen to randomly see them I took the chance. Usually bad_rendering does not find ores so those place manually were kinda suspicious but if that wasn't the case I wouldn't ever see them at that position, cause they were out of the cyclic path I was following.
As for your anti-cheat system I saw it in action before I was banned and from the test I did on other servers like MineSuperior and other Towny if you mine in the cyclic way 90% of the time say you are chating even tho it isn't the case. So yeah, for now these are my defences. Now I'll just wait for your long answer to these undefeatable explanations.

Truly your yL5er

P.S. I didn't blamed anyone, I'm just saying that it might had some influence, also why is it a permanent ban. From what I see most of the bans for this type of things are not permanent
 

SpookyGeist

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The ancient debri that was faked was a singular piece of ore that was cautiously put behind your trail of digging which you so happened to have spotted. Usually, people who do not X-ray, don't usually go back on their trail to pick up something they possibly didn't see, though you so happened to do so, and dig to the right where said ore was put, making you highly suspicious of X-raying. Had you not been using X-ray, which you assume to not have, normally a player wouldn't have seen the ore and continued, and yes, this ore was indeed also put in another chunk as to make it look legitimate and while you could argue this to be that of chance that you so happened to stumble upon it once more, well, that's alright. I'd give you the benefit of the doubt, but then again, you were caught by the anti-cheat system itself and this is not the first time it has done so.

I believe I did actually tell you once, out-right, to not hack when the system alerted you for the fun of it, but also with a mixture of sincerity behind as I didn't want to possibly ban you then and there, so it's not like this is the first time the system has ever caught onto you.

For now, I'll hang on to the evidence that we've gathered around your X-raying and while I do appreciate your means of defending yourself, they simply don't quite hold on to the grander scheme of things, ergo the evidence gathered of your use of X-ray.

I am willing to give you one more chance on Gingy since you've been so polite to write me well-thought reasoning as to why you didn't and though I'd appreciate more of an apology, I don't hold you accountable for that. Anyway, I've decided to give you one more chance on the server, but please don't cheat again. Your inventory has been reset and we've taken all the hacked ores.

Hope to see you back on Gingy grounds!

Yours sincerely, Spooky G.